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(Unedited) Podcast Transcript 584: The Transit Abundance Playbook

June 24, 2026

This week on the Talking Headways podcast we’re joined by Will Poff-Webster of the Institute for Progress to talk about their new collection of ideas to bring transit project costs down entitled the Transit Abundance Playbook. We discuss how to translate ideas into legislation, how these ideas fit into the current transportation bill, the importance of building public sector capacity, and how to cut costs in order to build more transit projects.

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(Unedited) Podcast Transcript 583: Framing Urban Disorder

June 17, 2026

This week we’re joined by Ryan Puzycki, who writes at The City of Yes. We have a discussion on urban disorder, how it manifests, and how to address the upstream impacts instead of when it’s too late. We also talk about enforcing norms and the impacts of media on our perceptions.

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(Unedited) Podcast Transcript 582: A Latent Hazard Activated by Conflict

This week we’re joined by Professor Eric Dumbaugh of Florida Atlantic University to share his new paper on Land Use and Road Safety: Understanding the Persistence of Vulnerable Road User Deaths and Injuries in the United States. We discuss the connections between the siting of destinations and deaths of vulnerable road users as well as a long game needed for true road safety.

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Access or Traffic Death

A new research paper from Florida Atlantic University discussing the foundations for 15 minute cities found that employment density is the highest driver of local travel. If people can meet their needs locally, they won’t travel outside of the neighborhood as often. This is important for a few reasons including some you might not expect. If people stay local to access destinations, it might mean less conflicts with high speed cars.

In transportation we often think about the mode of travel or conveyance, but if you consider access, the end destination is what most people find important. And that determines their travel choices as well as safety risks.

I’m often bothered that we think of our transportation systems as something that goes through places rather than to them. The place or end destination IS important. As Professor Jonathan Levine noted to us on the podcast in discussion with Greg Shill about a paper they co-authored,

“Accessibility” brings proximity into the equation. So mobility-based planning gauges the quality of transportation strictly on how easily one can move to a destination. But the problem is that’s a poor metric for indicating how well one can reach one’s destinations because you can have high accessibility even if you can’t move very fast, if your proximity is high, if your destinations are close or alternatively your destinations can be far away and you can move fast, but you still have low accessibility. So it’s really only accessibility that gauges the value of the transportation and land use system to people.”

Priority transit serving high job density destinations serves the best of both worlds. Not only can it go fast, but if designed correctly by serving destinations it retains a high level of access. When Denver’s RTD decided to run a light rail line around a hospital instead of through it, transit advocates groaned with dismay.

This is something we’ve been considering a long time and some of my early work was focused on the connections between destination employment and transit ridership. In 2009 I co-authored a TRB conference paper that was entitled Destinations Matter which linked high ridership light rail lines to employment along the route. It borrowed heavily from Pushkarev and Zupan‘s work on the subject but also data collection we did at the time.

A report a few years later, TCRP 167, found that transit ridership on fixed guideway rail lines was the result of the interaction between job/population density, CBD parking costs, and grade separation. Jobs was a high second predictor to this mix of factors which is interesting because it still tells us how important they are to people’s accessibility.

These days we focus so much on housing density and construction around transit, as we should, but sometimes it feels like it can be at the expense of the discussion about employment and destinations, particularly neighborhood serving ones accessible by walking, biking, and other mobility devices.

But there’s another angle to consider here on the other side of the land use coin. In low density car dependent areas where destinations are located based on car oriented planning, the placement of buildings like grocery or convenience stores can lead to more conflicts between vulnerable road users and cars.

We’re going to release a podcast soon with (also FAU professor) Eric Dumbaugh discussing the topic of vulnerable road user safety that considers destinations and land use based on his recent JAPA paper.  It’s a bit counterintuitive based on current practice but makes a lot of sense when you step back and think about it. The siting and location of grocery stores and gas stations and big box stores where people want to go are often along major arterials. This siting induces people to cross streets and leads to more traffic deaths.

So in a world where we are considering accessibility for the transportation system as a whole, land use decisions, specifically the location of destinations hold a more important role than perhaps we realize. Both in creating dense walkable neighborhoods that provide more destinations and realizing how the siting of destinations in suburban spaces influences access.

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(Unedited) Podcast Transcript 581: In Good Faith

June 3, 2026
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This week on the Talking Headways Podcast we’re joined by Ryan Avent to discuss his new book In Good Faith: How the Nature of Belief Shapes the Fate of Societies. We discuss human evolution and the impact of collective knowledge and culture and the need to create a new story about the future of society. We also discuss grass is greener thinking on infrastructure, the nature of belief without the need for evidence, and the fact that there is no perfect past.

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Leapfrogging the Oligarchy

When cell phones were introduced some places that didn’t have landlines could skip the infrastructure investment and go straight to mobile phones. Same with renewable energy that comes from solar panels generating power locally instead of connections to power plants and grids that require larger upfront investments. Now, I’m interested in this idea of satellite based internet as a similar leapfrog innovation.

When I have thought about transportation lately I’m consistently wondering if we’re at the edge of our spatial limits with auto oriented development. Meaning that we’ve built out our regions in a way that is hard to build more housing affordably unless we either rethink transportation, telecommunications, and/or land use.

On the transportation side, I really do think we’re “running out of land” as I’ve mentioned before. We’ve used all the space within a reasonable driving or transit distance to employment or entertainment destinations for single family tract housing developments and there’s just not many more huge parcels to build that many homes. Hence large increases in housing costs.

As Redfearn and Orlando note in their paper on the subject, neighborhood tracts with aging housing stock are also resistant to densification and sclerotic. There are groups working on this trying to break the logjam on already built out spaces, but that reform is at the moment slow and confronting entrenched interests.

But the pandemic and the white collar work from home movement has also opened up another path for connection albeit not as good or perhaps efficient as humans meeting with each other. Work from home allowed certain workers to move somewhere else to find a cheaper cost of living as long as there was internet. Of course we can’t ignore the equity considerations we’ve not even begun to grapple with in terms of who can work in such a way and where, but it does give us insight into what many people are craving. Affordable living and good quality of life.

During a recent visit to Boise Idaho, a major receiving region during the pandemic migration, I learned the extent that the region has been bursting at the seems with growth, especially sprawling single family subdivisions. These growth regions are now getting more expensive as builders and governments are grappling with demand but they also lend credence to the idea that our development and financial systems are good at suburban growth at scale and infill in bits and pieces.

The IIJA (infrastructure bill) passed during the Biden administration has funded broadband expansion (BEAD) that could have been an opportunity to grow something different for communities that aren’t quite as connected by networks as they should be. It wasn’t as good as it could have been (lack of a public option and more money to existing interests) because of telecom companies and states that are in the pockets of said telecom companies but the overall idea of connecting more Americans to a faster internet is still strong.

Now we’re seeing another emerging telecom type that could leapfrog the legacy (ha internet has legacy?) players which is satellite based internet. There’s something to be said about the proliferation of orbital physical and visual pollution around our planet, but technological advancement in this “space” could mean connecting people that weren’t connected before because existing companies said it would be too expensive to run a line to everywhere.

In my mind, our road expansion and airplane system now has diminishing returns and should be enhanced by programs that connect people faster with more economic impact. This could mean high speed rail which stops at more cities and economically connects mega regions, it could mean densification of existing urban conurbations, or it could mean deploying broadband to places that haven’t had high speed quality internet before.

Right now oligarchs like Elon Musk (Starlink) and Jeff Bezos (Amazon Leo) have the upper hand in this domain and are rigging the system to give themselves more of a head start. But it would behoove our governments or collectives to get out ahead of them to capture this value for everyone.

Advancements and investments in transportation and connectivity are one of the keys to affordability needed for a good quality of life. I would prefer we develop 15 minute cities and faster transportation networks, but there’s also an opening for connections to health care, loved ones, and opportunity that broadband can provide.

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Episode 192: Mondays at The Overhead Wire – No BRT for Christmas, Only Ham

Chrissy Mancini Nichols joins the show again and we have a blast talking about all kinds of urban topics.  We discuss the rise of electro-states, a new way to measure accessibility from Wendy Zhao, short versus long term thinking on BRT alignments, and thoughts on how we should fund transportation considering our new world of deliveries and electric vehicles. Lots of great stuff, listen in here.

Discussion Items

Dawn of the Electric World Order – Phenomenal World

A new way of measuring accessibility – USC Price

Colfax: to center run or side run BRT – Westword | Denverite

Funding transportation – will we miss the gas tax? KQED | Governing

Bonus Items

Hormuz Jeff – Saturday Night Live

Women Changing Cities – Talking Headways

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(Unedited) Podcast Transcript 580: Community Severance by Road

May 27, 2026

This week on the Talking Headways podcast we’re joined by Jaime Benavides and Marianthi-Anna Kioumourtzoglou of Brown University to discuss their new paper showing how community severance by road infrastructure and traffic has led to more mental health related hospital visits in New York City. We talk about the role of roads cutting people off from social connections and how impacts of roads on mental health were separated out from air quality.

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(Unedited) Podcast Transcript 579: Greensboro’s Downtown Greenway

May 20, 2026

This week on the Talking Headways podcast we’re joined by Dabney Sanders, Project Manager of the Greensboro Downtown Greenway. We chat about opening the final section of the Greenway after 25 years of work, the amazing art projects on the route, and lessons for other cities wanting to build greenways.

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